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#1 Post by grymm-one »

Need some new Aves. I've been using sculpt,but is this the best one for filling seams , blending and the odd detail. It seems unclear what the difference between sculpt,fix it and clay. Any advice?
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#2 Post by Warped Speed »

Youtube is a good source for info. Plus you could go to their website avesstudio.com for some good info too.

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You'll probably want a couple of different tools in your tool box for filling seams. I use Aves or even plumber's epoxy putty for the big stuff. For small seams, this stuff is perfect:

https://www.amazon.com/Liquitex-Light-M ... 173&sr=8-8

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You can wipe it on with your finger and make the seam disappear before the stuff even dries.

(I wouldn't buy it from Amazon, though. That price is outrageous. I think you can get it at Klick's for cheaper.)
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#4 Post by SaturnLtd »

I agree with Tim regarding more tools in the toolbox. I primarily use Magic Sculpt, but also use Aves FixIt sculpt. Regular Aves Apoxie sculpt just doesn't do it for me anymore. FixIt sands better, drys harder than regular Aves Apoxie sculpt IMO. Magic Sculpt is what I use most. Might have to pick up some of the Liquitex product to try out for pinholes.
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Isn't that liquitex stuff the ground up ceramic in a binder paste? I bought some but haven't tried it yet. If it IS the ground up ceramic stuff, be aware that reports indicate one should apply it then immediately remove the excess, because when it dries it's as hard as ....ceramic.

As suggested by SaturnLtd, the ceramic paste stuff has been highly recommended for removing large numbers of pinholes.
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Otto69 wrote:Isn't that liquitex stuff the ground up ceramic in a binder paste? I bought some but haven't tried it yet. If it IS the ground up ceramic stuff, be aware that reports indicate one should apply it then immediately remove the excess, because when it dries it's as hard as ....ceramic.

As suggested by SaturnLtd, the ceramic paste stuff has been highly recommended for removing large numbers of pinholes.
I don't know what it is! I usually wipe off the excess with my finger, but if it dries, I can wet my finger first and still wipe it off. It must not be the stuff you're thinking of.
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Tim Casey wrote:
Otto69 wrote:Isn't that liquitex stuff the ground up ceramic in a binder paste? I bought some but haven't tried it yet. If it IS the ground up ceramic stuff, be aware that reports indicate one should apply it then immediately remove the excess, because when it dries it's as hard as ....ceramic.

As suggested by SaturnLtd, the ceramic paste stuff has been highly recommended for removing large numbers of pinholes.
I don't know what it is! I usually wipe off the excess with my finger, but if it dries, I can wet my finger first and still wipe it off. It must not be the stuff you're thinking of.
I just dug out my jar and looked at the ingredients. A fruitless task. The only reason I thought it was a ceramic base is because someone, probably here, at one point said it was, and it's much heavier for a given size of container than other things like paints. But I guess I really don't know what's in it.
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Tim Casey wrote:You'll probably want a couple of different tools in your tool box for filling seams. I use Aves or even plumber's epoxy putty for the big stuff. For small seams, this stuff is perfect:

https://www.amazon.com/Liquitex-Light-M ... 173&sr=8-8

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You can wipe it on with your finger and make the seam disappear before the stuff even dries.

(I wouldn't buy it from Amazon, though. That price is outrageous. I think you can get it at Klick's for cheaper.)
What is the widest seam you would use this on ?
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Orion wrote:
Tim Casey wrote:You'll probably want a couple of different tools in your tool box for filling seams. I use Aves or even plumber's epoxy putty for the big stuff. For small seams, this stuff is perfect:

https://www.amazon.com/Liquitex-Light-M ... 173&sr=8-8

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You can wipe it on with your finger and make the seam disappear before the stuff even dries.

(I wouldn't buy it from Amazon, though. That price is outrageous. I think you can get it at Klick's for cheaper.)
What is the widest seam you would use this on ?
I dunno - 1/16th of an inch? They also make a heavy version that could probably go up to 3/16th of an inch.
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#10 Post by Orion »

Thanks Tim. I picked up an 8oz jar in Michael's, which should last a lifetime. It was MUCH cheaper than Walmart or Amazon. It didn't say "Light" just "Modeling Paste". Filled some arm gaps in Escape Hatch Strange Frankenstein. It worked fine. Boy does it get hard after an hour or so and cleans up with water. Thanks again.
https://www.michaels.com/liquitex-model ... C4QAvD_BwE and a 20% coupon off that.
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#11 Post by Tiger2 »

Probably a bit late to this topic, but it might be useful. Milliput superfine white is my 'go to' putty for absolutely everything - seam and gap filling, re sculpting etc. Doesn't get mentioned much here, It's probably similar to Aves, a 2 part epoxy putty, cures quite slow so plenty of time to get it sorted. Smooths out with water and will set under water if required! Can be wet sanded to a glass smooth finish, drilled etc.

It's also a very strong adhesive, capable of holding heavy parts. I've fixed arms and legs on kits using this stuff, pressing the parts together simultaneously fills the seam round the edges as it squishes up round the joint!

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Not late at all. I'm already researching the best possible price. :D
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Tiger2 wrote:Probably a bit late to this topic, but it might be useful. Milliput superfine white is my 'go to' putty for absolutely everything - seam and gap filling, re sculpting etc. Doesn't get mentioned much here, It's probably similar to Aves, a 2 part epoxy putty, cures quite slow so plenty of time to get it sorted. Smooths out with water and will set under water if required! Can be wet sanded to a glass smooth finish, drilled etc.

It's also a very strong adhesive, capable of holding heavy parts. I've fixed arms and legs on kits using this stuff, pressing the parts together simultaneously fills the seam round the edges as it squishes up round the joint!

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#14 Post by Tim Casey »

I've heard a lot of good things about Milliput, but I never bought it because I kept mixing up the name with Lilliput, which had something to do with Gulliver's Travels, and I didn't want to sound like an idiot.

Thanks for spelling it for me - I'm going to hunt it down!
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#15 Post by SaturnLtd »

I've used this stuff for large areas with pinholes. Cheap, easy to spread with your fingers, & smooths with water. Dries harder than regular spackling compound. Easy to paint over when dry.

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#16 Post by moviedemon »

I've used a variety of things - Aves Epoxy Sculpt, Bondo, Magic Sculpt, Milliput. They've all got their uses. I like Milliput for sculpting fine detail, but it's probably my least favorite seam filler. Even though you can smooth it with a wet fingertip, it's fairly dense and always seems to leave an edge, no matter how long you work it. When it comes to sanding, it tends to be harder than the surrounding material. I've never tried modeling paste though. I may have to give it a shot.
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#17 Post by jafo »

Do yourself a favor and read this> It is tongue in cheek style but loaded with tons of useful info on Aves. I never went back to anything else after reading this.
http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/vie ... 15&t=59848
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jafo wrote:Do yourself a favor and read this> It is tongue in cheek style but loaded with tons of useful info on Aves.
I never went back to anything else after reading this. http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/vie ... 15&t=59848
LOL - that's a funny read.

Thanks for sharing :thumb2:

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