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I cut a rectangle out if the back of this kit. I then made a plug out of AVES. The goal is to be able to attach and remove with ease. I may use a magnet for that.....my problem now is that there still are some slight gaps between the AVES and kit. Any idea how to make the gasp even smaller or non existant? It's ironman's back so i can make a border or something around it without it looking stupid???
Don't worry about the hole in the center of aves, that will be covered as i already made a copy of those circles out of AVES and will use that.
Any ideas about the gaps?

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I would advise you to use the Aves to fill in those gaps, but don't attach the Aves to the piece that you want to be removable, putty it directly onto the figure. Once the puttying is done, apply some Vaseline to the removable part and put it in place (the Vaseline ensures that it won't stick to the new putty). When you remove the part there will be marks on the new putty to show if any putty needs to be removed or you'll be able to see if there are any areas not covered to your satisfaction, and because the putty is still soft you can move it around.

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So, apply aves around the edges.
Then on the removable part apply Vaseline and put in place.

Should i move the AVES around at that point? And do i let the AVES fully cure or remove it when happy with the gaps being filled?

Thanks for your help.
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I've used this technique for years. I use Mountains in Minutes Latex Mold Builder, paint this around the hole, let dry, slather some Bondo on the other part, squeeze the two together, let dry. You'll have a perfect line-to-line fit.
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btbrush wrote:I've used this technique for years. I use Mountains in Minutes Latex Mold Builder, paint this around the hole, let dry, slather some Bondo on the other part, squeeze the two together, let dry. You'll have a perfect line-to-line fit.

interesting too......what do you mean by "on the other part, squeeze together"
are you saying to: place the plug in place....add the mold builder to the gaps....dry.....then i can use aves (dont have bondo) in the gaps, let it dry and then pull apart?

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Avall15 wrote:So, apply aves around the edges.
Then on the removable part apply Vaseline and put in place.

Should i move the AVES around at that point? And do i let the AVES fully cure or remove it when happy with the gaps being filled?

Thanks for your help.
If, after you've removed the removal part there are marks in the remaining Aves it shows that you need to remove any extra Aves that's been 'pushed aside' so that the gaps are closed all around and the removal part fits snugly.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but going from what you've said and the photo, the grey area is the removal area and the brown is the larger part. If so, I can clearly see the gaps and scratches around the grey, removable part. And I presume it's those gaps you want to fill. Is that correct? If so then, (as I've said above) fill those gaps and scratches with the Aves. While the Aves is still soft, apply Vaseline to the grey removable part on those areas where you know it is going to touch the soft Aves, then put it in place and press down lightly. Then lift it carefully away. You should see where it's come into contact with the soft Aves. If it's displaced the soft Aves remove the excess. Place the part again, to make sure it fits correctly, and then remove it and let the Aves cure. After a few hours, or longer, (I usually leave my Aves overnight), check the fit again and sand a little if necessary. Then sand the rest of the Aves so that it blends with the larger part. Prime and paint as usual.

If what I've said doesn't make sense then I've misunderstood what you want to do. Then explain again and I'll try to explain it better. :D
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Zephyr wrote: If, after you've removed the removal part there are marks in the remaining Aves it shows that you need to remove any extra Aves that's been 'pushed aside' so that the gaps are closed all around and the removal part fits snugly.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but going from what you've said and the photo, the grey area is the removal area and the brown is the larger part. If so, I can clearly see the gaps and scratches around the grey, removable part. And I presume it's those gaps you want to fill. Is that correct? If so then, (as I've said above) fill those gaps and scratches with the Aves. While the Aves is still soft, apply Vaseline to the grey removable part on those areas where you know it is going to touch the soft Aves, then put it in place and press down lightly. Then lift it carefully away. You should see where it's come into contact with the soft Aves. If it's displaced the soft Aves remove the excess. Place the part again, to make sure it fits correctly, and then remove it and let the Aves cure. After a few hours, or longer, (I usually leave my Aves overnight), check the fit again and sand a little if necessary. Then sand the rest of the Aves so that it blends with the larger part. Prime and paint as usual.

If what I've said doesn't make sense then I've misunderstood what you want to do. Then explain again and I'll try to explain it better. :D
Yes the grey is the removeable area.
Yes those are the gaps i want to fill in or make tighter.

I understand what you said and cannot wait to try it out.

Thanks so much for your help! I will post pictures when i get it done...maybe by this weekend since it will take a night to do and a day to dry.

Thanks again!
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I'm glad you figured out what I was saying. And I can't wait to see the results. :D


I love Aves! It's easy to use and very versatile and I use it all the time; to fill gaps, to fill air bubbles, fix seams, mend a broken finger/toe/ear, sculpt a new finger/toe/ear and to make a hundred and one little extras - ear rings, rings, bracelets, cups, bottles, rocks, shells, you name it Aves can do it (within reason of course, lol). And it lasts for years! The two 8oz containers last me around 5 years.
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Thanks....i just hope when it is painted that you cant tell that there is a huge rectangle in his back. Sometimes with Aves you can sort of tell between that and the actual kit....especially when you prime the kit.
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Avall15 wrote:Thanks....i just hope when it is painted that you cant tell that there is a huge rectangle in his back. Sometimes with Aves you can sort of tell between that and the actual kit....especially when you prime the kit.
Yes, you can sometimes tell, because the Aves is so white. I just apply a second coat of primer if it shows through the first. :D
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you might want to take a sander to the rectangle first to even out the edges. making it look more machined and straight would help the illusion of it belonging there.
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Philofmars wrote:you might want to take a sander to the rectangle first to even out the edges. making it look more machined and straight would help the illusion of it belonging there.

Very good advice! Thanks for the tip.
With xmas and me playing elf putting toys together the past couple of days I havent gotten around to it....hopefully this weekend.
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