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First Try at a Likeness

#1 Post by kevtk135 »

The newbie's back :roll:
This was my first try at a likeness to the jam Wise Old Teacher. This was the wisest guy I could think of. ;)
The time limit was an hr, which I think I went 10-15 min. over. Submitted pic than fooled with the wacky hair a bit more.

Self criticism - symmetry... Neck is too short and/or wide... Also what can't be seen the head is too flat... Other CCs more than welcome.
Thanks for looking.

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Hey that's a great likeness, looks just like Abraham Lincoln! :rolf: Seriously tho, if that's your first effort I applaud you. Will Albert have body?

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You can tell who it is right off, so that's most of the battle won. Very cool. 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I have a friend who has never sculpted a figure or a face before and he wants to do car shifter size heads of his favorite race car drivers. He's excited about trying it out. As an experienced art teacher/sculptor/artist, I don't have the heart to tell him that it's going to be a LOT HARDER than he thinks it's going to be. Getting an accurate likeness of a known individual is extremely difficult and requires almost a 6th sense of what's correct or wrong. The poor guy watches these You Tube Videos with an experienced expert just smashing clay right and left and "magically" creating a beautiful sculpt ! I applaud your first attempt "Duke" ! Keep at it ! Every attempt will teach you new things !!! Don't get discouraged !!
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Thanks guys.
No body for Albert this time around. There's a bunch of things wrong - his "no neck" bothers me the most. I always end up cutting the wire too short and either have no neck/shoulders or not much to push into the mounting base...
I bought this finished model of Poe from "Dellamorte" on Etsy (don't know if he's here under a different name). He's about 7 inches tall and a stylized caricature design. If I were to do Albert I would try for that sort of look.

Ellis Kendrick wrote:I have a friend who has never sculpted a figure or a face before and he wants to do car shifter size heads of his favorite race car drivers. He's excited about trying it out. As an experienced art teacher/sculptor/artist, I don't have the heart to tell him that it's going to be a LOT HARDER than he thinks it's going to be. Getting an accurate likeness of a known individual is extremely difficult and requires almost a 6th sense of what's correct or wrong. The poor guy watches these You Tube Videos with an experienced expert just smashing clay right and left and "magically" creating a beautiful sculpt ! I applaud your first attempt "Duke" ! Keep at it ! Every attempt will teach you new things !!! Don't get discouraged !!
I hear ya. At the 'in person' class (the rest is webchat) the first thing that was mentioned was that your first trys are going to really stink. But the 50th will be better than the 10th, and the 1000th will be better than the 500th. I have quite a collection of stinkers on a shelf... :sick:
And two - don't take weeks on one sculpt. In the beginning its quantity over quality as the quality will come with practice.

I have to agree with you on the You Tube vids. I love watchin' them too, but noticed they either put the time lapse so fast that you see whats going on but can't absorb what's going on ~ or clever edits leaves out certain important parts. One of a small group who really show everything is the western sculptor David Lemon.
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Hey Kev....as LOBOREX said, you know who it is straight away....you already have a caricature piece right there....that is not a put down, but a compliment. If you have brought out the characteristics of a likeness that quickly, you stand a chance, with lots of practice and observation to sculpt a serious likeness. No one can expect to produce a perfect likeness straight off the bat. :)

The next time you have a go, find a front/face on shot, a left and right profile (if you can't find both, use one and just flip it in some editing software. Not ideal, but better than nothing) and finally a view of the back of the head. There are so many pics of people out there, you should be able to find someone that has had photos taken with these profiles. Ideally three quarter shots of left and right sides would be good. If you have editing software, attempt to place the images alongside each other and at the same scale. Decide the scale/size of your next sculpt and size the images to that chosen scale. You might think this is way too complicated, but if you stick to attempting to scale the images with the sculpt, you stand a better chance at improvement. What you need to do next is print off 2 sets of images, one to look at and copy and the next set to cut out. So taking the second print out, carefully cut the head out, but instead of saving the whole head, you need to keep the outline. This counts for the side profile and front face shots. You will be able to control your sculpt by offering the cut out to the sculpt as you go along. So each time you offer it to the sculpt, you will see where you have not added enough, or perhaps too much. Near perfection will allow you to slip the cut out onto the head, with the sculpt passing straight through. This is not cheating, but will allow you to get the profile right. The rest is observation and measuring. Placing an eye/s just 1mm out will alter the likeness. It really is very, very difficult to capture a likeness, so don't give up thinking you can't do it. What this method will do, is help you get nose, chin and forehead shape correct from side profiles and the correct width of head, jaw shape and ear set correct. You still need to observe all the other elements as well, but at least this should primarily help you or anyone else in making a good start.

Regardless of which method you choose, I look forward to seeing the next one. Whatever you do, leave Einstein alone. Put him to one side and don't attempt to improve him because you won't be able to. He needs to remind you that he started you off as a likeness sculptor. :D

Good luck

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Einstein it is. Great job.
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Thanks guys.
grimaldi wrote:Hey Kev....as LOBOREX said, you know who it is straight away....you already have a caricature piece right there....that is not a put down, but a compliment. If you have brought out the characteristics of a likeness that quickly, you stand a chance, with lots of practice and observation to sculpt a serious likeness. No one can expect to produce a perfect likeness straight off the bat. :)

The next time you have a go, find a front/face on shot, a left and right profile (if you can't find both, use one and just flip it in some editing software. Not ideal, but better than nothing) and finally a view of the back of the head. There are so many pics of people out there, you should be able to find someone that has had photos taken with these profiles. Ideally three quarter shots of left and right sides would be good. If you have editing software, attempt to place the images alongside each other and at the same scale. Decide the scale/size of your next sculpt and size the images to that chosen scale. You might think this is way too complicated, but if you stick to attempting to scale the images with the sculpt, you stand a better chance at improvement. What you need to do next is print off 2 sets of images, one to look at and copy and the next set to cut out. So taking the second print out, carefully cut the head out, but instead of saving the whole head, you need to keep the outline. This counts for the side profile and front face shots. You will be able to control your sculpt by offering the cut out to the sculpt as you go along. So each time you offer it to the sculpt, you will see where you have not added enough, or perhaps too much. Near perfection will allow you to slip the cut out onto the head, with the sculpt passing straight through. This is not cheating, but will allow you to get the profile right. The rest is observation and measuring. Placing an eye/s just 1mm out will alter the likeness. It really is very, very difficult to capture a likeness, so don't give up thinking you can't do it. What this method will do, is help you get nose, chin and forehead shape correct from side profiles and the correct width of head, jaw shape and ear set correct. You still need to observe all the other elements as well, but at least this should primarily help you or anyone else in making a good start.

Regardless of which method you choose, I look forward to seeing the next one. Whatever you do, leave Einstein alone. Put him to one side and don't attempt to improve him because you won't be able to. He needs to remind you that he started you off as a likeness sculptor. :D

Good luck

Ant

Thanks for the terrific advice, Ant. I will make use of it.
I wasn't under the delusion that I could just whip up a photographic likeness. :D But was happy that a resemblance there. "Al" has already been baked and on the shelf.
Practice and time will be able to tell if I have the eye for a real likeness (what I would like) or be content with caricatures. Thanks again.
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I knew who it was at first glance so good job!
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I appreciate it. Thanks.
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