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1/4 Scale 3D printed Female Superhero

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Greetings Gang!
Been playing with me new toy and apart from commish related stuff and what have you, doing a bit for meself.
Full details on my site, link thing below:
http://www.ianlawrencemodels.com/wipshg.html

Abridged version here abouts:

Got a mesh from CGTrader for the princely sum of five George Washington portraits and got to work.
The mesh was by someone whos user name is rikkthegaijin and it's not only good, the parting is along natural lines so the parts breakdown for painting is exteremly good.
Linky to the site page below:
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-model ... 8684c40423

Couple of renders from the site page so one can see what she looks like....

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With the optional cape which I will not be using...

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Not a named or known to me superhero but like I care :wink:

So then, all the parts got hollowed out rather than leave solid as that ups the resin requirement to silly levels and since the resin is far from cheap, it makes sense.
Now scale in mesh terms is a bit irellevant as it can be scaled anyway ya like when it comes to printing.
So taking the largest part and scaling/rotating/faffing about with and off one did go in the hope i'd hit all the correct buttons.

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Turns out I may have done just that.

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Now there's more than a few bits of support material marks let over but this grey resin sands down really nicely so that was done and I put back the zipper tab i'd managed to break off.

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Likewise clean up applied to the rest of the parts.

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Then lo, the hallowed primer got slung about and a dry fit test was in order with the parts at hand. The boots were still printing at this time

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Base was fiddled about with to make it fit on the build plate and done in tough resin. Reason being that the grey resin is good if a bit brittle so some oomph need to hold this gal up proper.

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That's just going to get a polish up and left as is.

So the boots printed, cleaned up and just some minor surface defects to sand once the filler cures but had to have a dry fit dress rehersal.
Well I didn't have to, I just wanted to...
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In this setup, she stands 17 & 1/2" tall.

Just the boots to finally finish and then...the paintwork!
Oh yes!!

More later gang :D
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So....I'm curious; and also not trying to stir the pot, but I have a couple questions...
How much did it actually cost you for your 17 1/2" print? Specifically for the materials.
My reason for asking is two-fold...first of all the whole process intrigues me, and as prices for hardware continues to drop I might consider it, however; you indicated you bought the file for $5. What would stop an individual from paying $5 for the file, then printing 20 copies and sell them for $200 a piece?
(and your answer to question #1 may give the answer to question #2).
Hypothetically, you might answer that the materials cost you $60. What if I then thought "hey that's a pretty cool piece, would you print one and sell it to me?" and then you agreed to do so for $100 giving yourself an easy $40 profit. Are we approaching any ethical dilemmas in that scenario?
And I want to stress again, these are all hypothetical questions and answers.
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This is the license that comes with most purchases from CGtrader:

"Editorial License
Editorial license gives a permission to use the product only in an editorial manner, relating to events that are newsworthy, or of public interest, and may not be used for any commercial, promotional, advertising or merchandising use.

In a few instances, you may otherwise have the rights to IP in content that is under Editorial license. For instance, you may be the advertising agency for a brand/IP owner or you may be the brand/IP owner itself purchasing user generated content. Given you have the rights clearance through other means, you may use the content under Editorial License commercially. Every user failing to comply with Editorial Use restrictions takes the responsibility to prove the ownership of IP rights.

For users, who are not brand/IP owners or official affiliates, the restrictions of Editorial-licensed content usage include, but are not limited to, the following cases:

Products may not be used on any item/product created for resale such as, commercials, for-profit animations, video games, VR/AR applications, or physical products such as a merchandise or t-shirt.
Products may not be used as part of own product promotional materials, billboard, trade show or exhibit display.
The product may not be incorporated into a logo, trademark or service mark. As an example, you cannot use Editorial content to create a logo design.
Products may not be used in any insulting, abusive or otherwise unlawful manner.
The product may not be used for any commercial related purpose.
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OK, so I'm still curious as to the actual cost of the finished 1/4 scale piece...and from what I'm taking from all that legalese, is that what the rules are, is that you can't use the file that you bought to make an object to resell.
So what's to stop someone from doing it?
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resin addict wrote:So....I'm curious; and also not trying to stir the pot, but I have a couple questions...
How much did it actually cost you for your 17 1/2" print? Specifically for the materials.
My reason for asking is two-fold...first of all the whole process intrigues me, and as prices for hardware continues to drop I might consider it, however; you indicated you bought the file for $5. What would stop an individual from paying $5 for the file, then printing 20 copies and sell them for $200 a piece?
(and your answer to question #1 may give the answer to question #2).
Hypothetically, you might answer that the materials cost you $60. What if I then thought "hey that's a pretty cool piece, would you print one and sell it to me?" and then you agreed to do so for $100 giving yourself an easy $40 profit. Are we approaching any ethical dilemmas in that scenario?
And I want to stress again, these are all hypothetical questions and answers.
Not a prob, reasonable questions and i'll try to answer them as best I can.
The material only cost of this weighs in at £101.60 or about $133.50 at this time of scribbling.

It depends on the license and if the persons concerned were bothered about it which falls to the ethical conundrum. This one for example is under a royalty free licence so technically, I could do the print and sell copies to my hearts content were I of a mind to, which i'm not. As I said, depends on the licence and that's another thing to be mindful of but again, depends on the individual.

I have one rather superb mesh (yet to be printed) that i've seen as resin cast kits available on a site yet the licence states it's not to be used for commercial/profit purposes. That said, it is of a known comic book character and I am 90% sure that the mesh and sales thereof are unlicenced so them grey areas/ethical quandries can really pile up. Speaking as one who, it could be said, has technically infringed on more than a few IP's (one off scratchbuilds and otherwise in kit form) I am not really in any position to pass judgement on this issue. How others view it is down to them but I see where you're coming from with the questions so it's all good.
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resin addict wrote:OK, so I'm still curious as to the actual cost of the finished 1/4 scale piece...and from what I'm taking from all that legalese, is that what the rules are, is that you can't use the file that you bought to make an object to resell.
So what's to stop someone from doing it?
In an ideal world, honouring the licence agreement. In reality, very little.

There are sites that on downloading the mesh it comes with a caveat that you can print and sell as much as you please but pass the mesh to another part and they will cause you all kinds of trouble including ratting you out to the IP owner.
All well and good but as far as I can see, the mesh is not licenced anyway so one can take from that whatever one wishes.
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Thanks.
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resin addict wrote:OK, so I'm still curious as to the actual cost of the finished 1/4 scale piece...and from what I'm taking from all that legalese, is that what the rules are, is that you can't use the file that you bought to make an object to resell.
So what's to stop someone from doing it?
To answer you question about what is to stop someone from selling is simply.....morals....if you don't have them then nothing to stop you. I don't steal gum from the corner store when the cashier's back is turned because I was brought up to have morals. If you know something is wrong and you do it anyway then you run the risk of subsequent ramifications.

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ILModels wrote:
resin addict wrote:So....I'm curious; and also not trying to stir the pot, but I have a couple questions...
How much did it actually cost you for your 17 1/2" print? Specifically for the materials.
My reason for asking is two-fold...first of all the whole process intrigues me, and as prices for hardware continues to drop I might consider it, however; you indicated you bought the file for $5. What would stop an individual from paying $5 for the file, then printing 20 copies and sell them for $200 a piece?
(and your answer to question #1 may give the answer to question #2).
Hypothetically, you might answer that the materials cost you $60. What if I then thought "hey that's a pretty cool piece, would you print one and sell it to me?" and then you agreed to do so for $100 giving yourself an easy $40 profit. Are we approaching any ethical dilemmas in that scenario?
And I want to stress again, these are all hypothetical questions and answers.
Not a prob, reasonable questions and i'll try to answer them as best I can.
The material only cost of this weighs in at £101.60 or about $133.50 at this time of scribbling.

It depends on the license and if the persons concerned were bothered about it which falls to the ethical conundrum. This one for example is under a royalty free licence so technically, I could do the print and sell copies to my hearts content were I of a mind to, which i'm not. As I said, depends on the licence and that's another thing to be mindful of but again, depends on the individual.

I have one rather superb mesh (yet to be printed) that i've seen as resin cast kits available on a site yet the licence states it's not to be used for commercial/profit purposes. That said, it is of a known comic book character and I am 90% sure that the mesh and sales thereof are unlicenced so them grey areas/ethical quandries can really pile up. Speaking as one who, it could be said, has technically infringed on more than a few IP's (one off scratchbuilds and otherwise in kit form) I am not really in any position to pass judgement on this issue. How others view it is down to them but I see where you're coming from with the questions so it's all good.
Very well put!!!

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resin addict wrote:Thanks.
You are most welcome.
beaveren wrote:
Very well put!!!

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Thanks B, I try to be coherent as much as possible. This would appear to be one of those times...so it may be a while until the next one :lol:

Back to the matter at hand...
And lo, the paintwork didst commnceth.
Flesh paint basic Tamiya flesh ala rattlecan, lighter tones via Vallejo base flesh, airbrush blasted on.

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Then in with the ground pastel chalks for final shading and an airbrush matt coat to seal.

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Same deal with the hands and face.

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Now comes the make or break for me with pretty much any figure, the face paint and most importantly, the eyes.
More to come!
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Looks good so far! I kind of like the version with the cape. Of course I'm not sure why Superheros have capes anyway - they have to get in the way!
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Thanks Steve.
Yeah the cape version isn't a bad look, just not for me at least in this instance. I agree about them getting in the way :lol:

Well the days work hasn't turned out too badly so far...

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More to come!
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Wow!
You really don't waste any time, do you.

So much progress, and looking soooooo good.
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Great work on the eyes - I like the 2 different shades on upper and lower eyelids.
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Looking great. That's some crazy progress!
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VERY nice job!
I like the base giving her the not off balance but in motion look.
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Very nice paintwork. I hope you post more pictures as she progresses. :like
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tay666 wrote:Wow!
You really don't waste any time, do you.
So much progress, and looking soooooo good.
Thanks Trev, I think I got the bit between me teeth on this one :D
Scooke123 wrote:Great work on the eyes - I like the 2 different shades on upper and lower eyelids.
Cheers Steve, just trying to do a few different things and for once it seemed to work out.
Ant wrote:Looking great. That's some crazy progress!
Trying me best Ant, kind of in the zone with this girl.
kevtk135 wrote:VERY nice job!
I like the base giving her the not off balance but in motion look.
Thanks. Same here Kev, one of the things that sold it for me whne I first clapped eyes on her.
AZ wrote:Very nice paintwork. I hope you post more pictures as she progresses. :like
Well if you insist AZ and I can see that you do :lol:

Ok, body paint done.
Vallejo cold white left matt with some ground blue pastel chalk for shading,
Flat red areas with a drop of black for the first coat, second coat a with straight red and a bit of sqinting to leave the deliniation lines.
Blue areas done with Royal blue base then dry brushed straight with a drop of white, final going over lightly with a bit more white added.
0.5mm pencil lines here and there for sharp deliniation lines where needed.
The whole deal matt varnished.

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Zippers picked out in Vallejo old gold and a dab of white gold here and there.
Red areas got a gloss coat, blue areas got satin.

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For a change, wanted some gold and silver but did it with silver and gold leaf, mainly for curiosity to see how it would look and for why the hell not.

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The gold I am very happy with, the silver not so much, could have used paint and probably got the same finish so kind of a 1-0 score on that and moving on.
Also there were times it looked like a gold and silver snowstorm in the workshop but the floor and me looked really sparkly and fabulous!

Bit of brass rod, a hole drilled, some epoxy stay put ya bugger gunk applied and the head was attached.

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And that's it for now, just the forearms and boots to do then i'll get my thing together and get this lass together.
More to come gang!
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Thanks for the detailed progress - very helpful!!!
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